We were having one of those marvellous conversations we have out here. They get deep, metaphysical and about various aspects of life, fatherhood (for those who are in it) and other things. So we're on about Steve's kid who wins a cross-country race by turning up late, unprepared and with a banana for lunch.

Steve has always tried to teach them life is not easy and yet this kid is breezing through things thginking, "Shit this is easy!" and Steve is doing his nut.

Anyway, the kid is like always saying but it worked the way I did it and Steve tells him otherwise. You'll fall on yer arse someday and stuff like that.

He's also teaching him how to behave, but not to take example from him. He's not to look up to him as an idol, rolemodel or anything else. You'd have to know a bit about Steve to realise this is good advice. So we're discussing this, and the whole "Do as I say, not as I do" parental philosophy, and Steve mentions that he says this on a regular basis as well as "And DON'T upset yer muther!!" to which he follows up (slightly muttering) with:

"It also upsets the fathers chances of getting laid! Do you know how difficult it is to maintain a stiffy when all she wants to do is talk about the kids?"